Comments on: How many Avios do I need to fly to ….? https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/ Maximise your Avios points and frequent flyer miles Tue, 02 Jan 2024 19:34:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-830212 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-830212 In reply to Nat.

Absolutely not. Even in the worse case scenario (turn them into Nectar points) you’d get £380.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/07164466321dbdd876830b38528bb336?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Nat https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-830209 Nat]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-830209 Is it worth spending Avios points on a package holiday? For a £2,8000 holiday 57K avios will mean £289 off the total.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ffb702895d5da9d1ef3a02c05d532f2a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Kieran https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-829842 Kieran]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-829842 In reply to BA Flyer IHG Stayer.

It’s 115,000 – am looking now

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-829440 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-829440 In reply to John.

Table is one way

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/12db5c957a36afba50869bc077ec749f?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />John https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-829429 John]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-829429 In reply to Rob.

Similar issue here – am currently being quoted double the taxes / cash detailed in your table, but have definitely used only x1 person in my search. Do you have any idea why this may be?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0909ff771d90260636eee866459bc490?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Rich https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-828366 Rich]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-828366 In reply to Rob.

You’re probably right! 🙂 It was late…thanks.

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-828362 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-828362 In reply to Rich.

More likely that you just put in one person!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0909ff771d90260636eee866459bc490?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Rich https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-828334 Rich]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-828334 I was looking at Dubai last night and it showed £280 return for two with a buddy voucher, this AM it is now showing as £560 return in taxes on the same route using a buddy voucher. Is anyone else seeing this overnight increase? Thanks.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1b0586a94d0a1bd1e610a930e0996b8f?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Simey https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-828197 Simey]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-828197 Regarding LAS pricing. This mentions 90K off peak per leg. I seem to get it for 380K for 2 PAX which returns it at 95K Avios per leg. Anyone else noticed this?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/23025b529f430ff214db76b2bf7b2916?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Geoff https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-828107 Geoff]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-828107 In reply to Mack.

90k + taxes

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/26462d85357a69240670e570ae26fc66?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mack https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-827844 Mack]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827844 Am I reading this correctly – a trip from London to Vancouver using a 241 express premium plus companion voucher would cost 90k avios + taxes? Or would it cost 180k avios + taxes?

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827606 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827606 In reply to Sharon.

It can be cheaper in cash to go FRA-TYO as taxes are lower.

It may be cheaper in Avios. Partners are priced on distance so some countries may tip into a lower zone.

Standard BA.com booking page for Avios will let you book of seats available.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9f89f6258f1b530cb83e16d6005292d0?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Sharon https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827596 Sharon]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827596 In reply to Rob.

Hi, I am quite new to this and keep reading you get better value by not starting your journey in London. I too want to go to Tokyo and wondered if I got a cheap flight to say Frankfurt or Helsinki then fly JAL to Tokyo in business class would this be less miles than BA from London?
I have spent the last hour trying to figure out how to search or book flights that don’t start in London and don’t involve BA. Proving impossible. How do you do it?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cffa8d383f5368b6ca94c558aff50251?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Ruben https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827506 Ruben]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827506 In reply to gundam.

Issue I have is there are no availability generally to flights to Tokyo. Unless I’m missing something

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/048d5a24bbe56f9b50d0fe85f70858c4?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Mimo https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-4/#comment-827464 Mimo]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827464 Thank you, helpful article.

Just paid £100 for an economy return Bermuda to London on a 241 voucher. For me it’s a great deal regardless of number of avios (the BA hotels 15 avios for £ spent is helping my avios balance).

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d5dbbd9724b4e925e286d19b03c1b905?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />gundam https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827407 gundam]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827407 In reply to Rob.

Thanks Rob. I think so too. Just wanted to sound check.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/20e850a25cf76a9e1a23222b5218e18e?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Max https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827262 Max]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827262 When booking using an (old style) Amex 241 voucher, I was charged the equivalent new peak avios but also old lofty taxes. Worst of both worlds, cheers BA!

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827253 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827253 In reply to gundam.

A 241 will almost certainly work out better than a Barclays voucher – this is a general rule.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/689f2a64b98ed50a43e8d9fe6068c4c2?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Will https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-827180 Will]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827180 In reply to Lady London.

Don’t publish a chart one year, let them get used to it, go full dynamic once you think people are used to it and then you don’t have to call it a devaluation.

Very very slippery slope.

For anyone sat on oodles of avios or who generates bucket loads nectar is very appealing.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/689f2a64b98ed50a43e8d9fe6068c4c2?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Will https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-827179 Will]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827179 In reply to Rob.

Yep I had exit row seats in CE to Geneva a few weeks ago, 12 rows of CE!

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/d5dbbd9724b4e925e286d19b03c1b905?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />gundam https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827178 gundam]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827178 I have a companion voucher and a Barclays upgrade voucher. Looking to book a one way to Tokyo in business for two pax. Looking at the chart, I am better off using my companion voucher for 110k miles + £550 compared with Barclays voucher for 155k miles + £550.
Have I interpreted this right?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/49d3cf415d610285b460a5b299eca339?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Erico1875 https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-1/#comment-827166 Erico1875]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827166 In reply to Evie.

It makes the Barclays upgrade voucher just about useless for short haul.
For long haul, I’d use an amex 2 41 anyway

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rob https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827159 Rob]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827159 In reply to david.

As the article explains, the cash element now bears no relation to underlying costs.

The numbers above will not change if fuel halves in price or APD is scrapped. There is no longer any correlation.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3c32c8eb2027b7d0cea6a4a2aeb88de1?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />BJ https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827158 BJ]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827158 Thanks for updating this one guys. It was interesting but quite shocking to see the cost of shorthaul. At first glance one wonders why anybody would bother but I guess there’s still value on ultra peak dates and at the last minute, especially if using a voucher. Even then, I doubt very many are redeeming regional connections on shorthaul. The gaps in BA network are also glaringly obvious in the table, they can only barely claim to be a global airline these days I think.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e25acfa1e94262b010bacd5755011f09?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Peter https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827157 Peter]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827157 The chart looks a bit like Waitrose pricing for anyone doing weekly shopping. You either don’t care about prices, or use it because of convenience (got spare points from work paid travel). For most of us, it’s just the reduced section, though hardly ever available.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/09de71ad1b4392e20fcfbc7326b478e7?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />david https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827155 david]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827155 Are these taxes and fees including ADP leaving UK? So on return one way it would be minus ADP?

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/2b63675e4088bb4c48710f7438fa932a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Talay https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-3/#comment-827153 Talay]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827153 As Avios can be used on Qatar, perhaps add the Qatar option and Avios requirement for cities BA used to serve but which Qatar does, such as Bangkok ?

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By: <img src ="https://www.headforpoints.com/wp-content/themes/head-for-points/assets/images/HFP-insta-logo-blue-120x120.jpg" class="avatar" />Rhys https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-827151 Rhys]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827151 In reply to BA Flyer IHG Stayer.

This was the route I was going to go down but as Sydney is unique I thought it best to wait. The pricing differences between peak/off-peak are not as uniform as you might imagine.

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/362270406fa5cab6e2895d5510f03ffe?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />Jonathan https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-827148 Jonathan]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827148 In reply to Jack.

You probably don’t know or can’t remember the days before Avios existed

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By: <img src ="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/67d11b554d06d4f25e85de9f4520862a?s=96&d=mm&r=g" class="avatar" />BA Flyer IHG Stayer https://www.headforpoints.com/2023/02/13/how-many-avios-points-do-i-need-to-fly-to/comment-page-2/#comment-827145 BA Flyer IHG Stayer]]> https://www.headforpoints.com/?p=445359#comment-827145 In reply to Rob.

well that’s definitly a good reason for not being able to show it!

A good estimate would be what is the extra required over SIN for the other cabins and add that onto the SIN peak rate.

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