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Why Doha is a cheap Avios business class redemption on Qatar Airways and Iberia

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I was reading through our forum last week when I saw a comment from a HfP reader who was in the middle of a winter break in Doha.

He had flown from Madrid on Iberia and had paid just 68,000 Avios + £206 in taxes and charges for his return Business Class seat.

It tempted me to have a look around at what else was available.

Museum of Islamic Art Doha

Let’s start by saying that Doha is not everyone’s first choice for a Middle East winter break. It doesn’t have the breadth of hotels and resorts that you’ll find in Dubai – nowhere near – but it is approaching the level of Abu Dhabi.

If all you are looking for is somewhere warm with very high quality hotels, however, you could do a lot worse. The Museum of Islamic Art (image above) and the National Museum of Qatar (below) also let you tick off the culture box.

Iberia’s reward chart has a sweet spot

The Iberia reward chart – which applies whether you book an Iberia flight redemption for Avios on ba.com or iberia.com – looks like this:

Iberia Avios reward chart

It is very similar to the old British Airways reward chart, pre Reward Flight Saver, except for Zone 5.

As you can see, flights of 3,001 to 4,000 miles are just 34,000 Avios each way in Business Class on off-peak dates. This covers a lot of interesting routes, primarily Madrid to New York. You can fly from Madrid to New York, off peak, in Iberia’s Business Class for 68,000 Avios + £213 return.

Last year Iberia launched flights from Madrid to Doha, alongside a daily service from Qatar Airways. Whilst I didn’t pick up on this at the time, this route also falls into the 3,001 to 4,000 miles sweet spot. This is why Madrid to Doha, return, is 68,000 Avios plus £206.

You can use a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher on Iberia

Now that British Airways American Express Premium Plus companion vouchers are accepted on Iberia, this becomes even cheaper.

Two people can travel from Madrid to Doha using a 2-4-1 voucher for an average of 34,000 Avios + £206 each, return, in Business Class.

The Qatar Airways service is also a decent deal

Qatar Airways also has its own ‘special’ Avios redemption chart. As with Iberia, this is used whether you book on qatarairways.com or ba.com.

National Museum of Qatar

From Madrid, it costs 86,000 Avios + £162 return for a Business Class trip to Doha, off-peak. Again, you can’t sniff at that. You can’t use a 2-4-1 voucher on Qatar Airways, however.

Qatar Airways is also an excellent deal from the UK. A Business Class return flight from Heathrow to Doha is 86,000 Avios + £384 in taxes and charges on off-peak dates.

(This is £222 more than starting in Madrid. If you are not short of time, you could use the £222 saving to fly to Madrid and have a ‘free’ day and night there before heading to Doha.)

But don’t book British Airways ….

Whether you book Iberia or Qatar Airways to Doha, you’ll get a cheap deal.

The British Airways flights from Heathrow to Doha are substantially less attractive. The Reward Flight Saver price is a whopping 160,000 Avios + £350 per person.

Pulling down the Avios amount by using additional cash, the nearest option to the Qatar Airways price (which is 86,000 Avios + £384, remember) is 88,000 Avios + £800 per person.

This is before we start discussing the merits of the Qatar Airways lounges, seat, food, drink and servce vs the British Airways alternative ….

The BA option looks more attractive if you have a 2-4-1 voucher – but it’s still far poorer value than using the same voucher for a 2-4-1 on Iberia.

Conclusion

If you don’t have a huge Avios balance but want to try out a Business Class long-haul redemption, you could do worse than 68,000 Avios + £206 for an off-peak Iberia trip from Madrid to Doha – especially if you have a British Airways American Express Premium Plus companion voucher to use.

And, by a complete coincidence, next week we’ll be running a special series reviewing Iberia’s latest Business Class seat and the food and service …..

Comments (112)

  • Amy C says:

    Hmmmm I was recently considering using my expiring (March) Barclays voucher for Doha. Will have to look into how that compares now. Probably unfavourably to these options.

  • Cmon John says:

    I should wait until you have visited both Doha and Abu Dhabi before you say they have the same facilities and attractions. They are like chalk and cheese! Abu Dhabi is the leading destination in the Middle East by a country mile with Petra, Manama and Muscat following behind. Then there is Dubai and Doha – both ghastly in their individual ways – one as its like Benidorm and the other Id liken to Jeddah!

    • Yuff says:

      Interesting comparison, lol, Dubai and Benidorm.
      Have to say I have been to both, Dubai many times Benidorm once, there is a reason why I have only been to Benidorm once and continue to visit Dubai twice a year 🤔

    • Rob says:

      I’m in Doha on a regular basis to see QR. You seem to be basing your view on different factors to ‘where is ok for a short beach break’ which is the key here.

      • Erico1875 says:

        I’m not really a culture vulture. Nice beach, comfy sunbed does me for a week in the sun.
        Some of the 5* hotels look cheap in March
        i.e IC around £150 a night

        • NorthernLass says:

          Nothing wrong with either! I’m very partial to culture AND lying in the sun. Often both on the same trip. Being snobbish about travel means you’re probably missing out on something you may well enjoy.

          • Erico1875 says:

            There’s more to Benidirm than the Levante, as featured on the TV.
            The Old Town and Poniente give a completely different holiday experience.
            Can’t beat a €2 breakfast though

          • Hampshirehog says:

            On a day trip to Benidorm I had the worst full English I’d ever eaten

        • Ruralite says:

          Low prices in March are probably down to expected lack of capacity, Ramadan begins around the 9th of March this year & whilst in Abu Dhabi & Dubai at least things like museums, cafes & restaurants etc are not nearly as restricted as they used to be it still affects travel. Eid begins around 8/9 April & prices will go up for the holiday.

    • Nick G says:

      I have been to Abu Dhabi and Doha on holiday. While all we want is guaranteed warmth they are not chalk and cheese in my view. In fact when we’ve been sat near a pool or driven to wherever locally you literally couldn’t tell which country you were in.

      Not sure where you get your information from but that’s my opinion. And I would happily to go BACK to either!

    • Sam says:

      I’m not sure if you’re referring exclusively to the Palm when you mention Dubai, but you actually surprisingly get very good hotel rates if you stay off it (and nowhere near as touristy).
      The Intercontinental Festival City for example (which is a fabulous hotel) has some ridiculously competitive rates over the Easter hols – albeit a booking.com price but the hotel has priced matched in the past.

  • David S says:

    What are the additional options for booking a second flight onwards from Doha to Asia. Are you restricted to Qatar or are prices competitive with other carriers. At the end of the day are two flights (or 3 if the need to get to Madrid) cheaper than one ex LHR ?

  • David Faichney says:

    Please help me 🙏
    Where and how do I book a Qatar reward flight using my BA 241 voucher
    Had a few tries without success after linking both BA & Qatar and putting 100 Avios into Qatar
    Thanks everyone

    • Rob says:

      You can’t book Qatar Airways with a 241.

      To book the BA flight to Doha on a 241 you need to use BA.com. It’s a Gatwick service so searching Heathrow to Doha will throw a blank (or is Heathrow still there?

      • David Faichney says:

        Morning and thanks Rob
        Enjoy your awards bash tonight 👍

      • AspirationalFlyer says:

        Morning all, you can book LHR to Doha (return) on the companion voucher and then could use Avios from Doha to your final destination. I tried LHR – Doha last year – probably the best long-haul economy flight I’ve had (although my flight departed from gate A10 in T5A so don’t necessarily rush to the T5B lounge like me!). On the return there is now a 7:30am departure from DOH , which connects well with overnight arrivals from South East Asia. There is a flight at around 1-2am odd too. I’m doing this in May. I managed to book a cheap PE ticket via Doha and immediately upgraded the DOH-LHR to Club and get seat 1A (it is a Club Suite flight too). I don’t think that gets you Al Mourjan access (Qatar don’t allow access on their own upgraded with points tickets) but it is a 1.5 hour connection anyway – the showers and champagne are similar anyway!

  • AspirationalFlyer says:

    I was in the Madrid T4S lounge last week. I was quite impressed. It became very busy but I’d say the food was more comparable to BA First rather than business lounges. It is also nice to be able to try the long-haul aircraft on the LHR-MAD route too.

    • daveinitalia says:

      The food in the BA first lounge is pretty much the same as business these days. GGL is the new gold! At one time you could order hot food in galleries first from a menu, now that’s only available in the Concorde Room (of course the Concorde Room menu was better than what was in galleries first but the galleries first menu still had the burger and a few other items).

      • LittleNick says:

        Yes real shame BA has trashed the food offering in Galleries First when sister airline in IAG seem to do a good job for the non-Schengen lounge. Would be good if they could bring back a few order items in GF

  • NorthernLass says:

    For me, paying QR pricing but being able to fly to/from MAN is preferable to paying less and going via MAD (as likely to be connecting from DOH in future), or even using the 241.

    That said, you quite often see F to DOH on BA, for which of course you could use the 241, and would offset the hassle of travelling via LHR.

    • Russell G says:

      Zero F availability LHR-DOH / DOH-LHR according to RFF right now, maybe we have different views of “quite often”. 😉

  • Mark says:

    I am still astonished that wanting either a beach holiday or cultural experience people still opt for UAE or Qatar as a suitable visit. IMO not only are they cultural desserts, they have some of the most appalling human rights. I know this is not ‘cool’ to bring these up on a great site solely promoting travel but for me it is a bit like the scene from Carry On Up The Kyber – Dinner is Served (search this in You Tube). It just doesn’t ‘fly’ with me, but YMMV. Amnesty International’s site searching under human rights in UAE and Qatar also makes for a somber read. I am not judging (much) but should we really just brush over this so easily? I am not hating but felt compelled to comment, not intending to upset anyone.

    • David says:

      UK sells guns to K of SA to use on Yemen. Principles and all, you should revoke your citizenship.

      • AJA says:

        @David Are you suggesting that because the UK sells arms to Saudi that means we should excuse Qatar”s human rights record?

        • Novice says:

          If selling drugs makes a person complicit to a druggie’s death then selling weapons makes a country complicit to the crimes of another.

          Same thing.

          Otherwise it’s not a drug dealers fault someone died. They don’t force anyone to tk drugs. So then why do they get prison and hate.

          • AJA says:

            Not sure that’s an entirely comparable analogy. UK companies manufacture the armaments sold to the Saudis. That’s different to the Qatari government’s human rights record even if it is done either the approval of the UK government.

            To be clear I do get the point that selling the arms makes you complicit.

            That said that wasn’t my point – I am saying you can be critical of a foreign government’s human rights record even if your own country does also do things that you disapprove of. @David seems to suggest the two things are mutually exclusive

      • Novice says:

        Yh and never heard anyone here say anything about Israel who have been doing what was done to them since the nakba.

        No offence, but some people sound racist to some extent because they are happy to go to any other western country regularly but not any other.

        USA are the worst warmongers just like Russia. Or does it not count if your doing it in other countries and not committing atrocities on your own people.

        Well if trump gets in, maybe they will do it out in the open for a change.

        What my point is, it is useless and pointless just virtue signaling. If you really are concerned about human rights; what are you doing here???

        • Mark says:

          I agree with the argument Novice is making. If individuals are unaware of human rights concerns in nations beyond the UAE and Qatar, they are effectively contradicting their own principles on these issues. For my part, I prefer to visit countries that maintain reasonably just laws and human rights for their citizens. I acknowledge that this choice narrows my opportunities to see some extraordinarily beautiful places, but I will not travel to a location where I might not feel welcome or could be penalised for what I deem to be basic rights. Some may criticise selectively, but I am genuinely dismayed by the state of human rights in many countries, and thus I refrain from visiting them. While this article addressed the UAE and Qatar, my comments are not exclusively about them. I am not trying to come across as self-righteous or win an argument here, rather to shed light on something I believe is quite fundamental, which resonates with us in the UK and other nations that have a higher commitment to the welfare of their citizens.

          • Rob says:

            You won’t be going far beyond Western Europe and Australasia on that basis though. Certainly not the US – a massive fail on abortion rights and use of the death penalty, certainly not most of Asia (perhaps Japan). Even Poland and Hungary are out. It’s only in the last decade or so that you’d have gone to Ireland.

          • Russell G says:

            I’d also like to point out then Mark that you should probably avoid the UK if you have issues with Qatar as the Qatari Investment Authority owns huge stakes in a large number of UK companies and properties (banks, supermarkets, etc) and they’re also the largest shareholder in BA therefore you should probably avoid travelling anywhere on BA. Oh and you’ll wanna make sure not to use any gas appliances and probably avoid using electricity or energy of any kind for the same reasons. It’s myopic to just believe that human rights stands should only apply to tourism and also funny to see anyone that tries to actually avoid all products and services of countries with HR violations.

          • Hampshirehog says:

            The Gulf states and USA hold no appeal to me for reasons of cultural, cost and the unappetising human rights records of both destinations tbh

          • Mark says:

            In response to Rob (as I can’t reply directly):

            I certainly do not endorse the human rights records of many countries, including the US. Although the death penalty is, in my view, reprehensible, it is typically reserved for heinous crimes rather than for expressing opinions or for being a woman or part of a minority group – not to suggest that sexism, racism, and xenophobia aren’t still prevalent issues.

            It’s challenging to find a panacea, as every nation has its questionable laws, I’m sure – and many upstanding citizens within these countries are likely just as appalled.

            We all have our own threshold of what we consider tolerable and strive to find a balance. For me, the line is drawn at laws which suppress the voices of citizens excessively or infringe upon ‘basic’ human rights to an oppressive extent. I believe that there are other countries, within of the continents you’ve mentioned, which are more progressive.

            Human rights are evolving and improving in some nations, which positively influences their people (and vice versa), rendering these countries more attractive to visit, even if they’re not perfect. In my opinion, the UAE and Qatar are far from meeting these standards, which is why I choose not to visit them, regardless of my professional obligations or personal desire – despite my interest in experiencing the QSuite or the A380’s bar.

            I must say, I am a great follower of HFP and the content has helped me enourmously, and I am able to be a keen reader without it muddying my views, its just with this article I felt compelled to comment on.

          • Novice says:

            @Mark, you said in US, the death penalty is for crimes which deserve it but how many times have the US system wrongly accused and imprisoned an innocent person. How can you be so sure all the ppl on death row are actually criminals???

            @Rob, if we are going to be pure about this; I would say Mark probably shouldn’t go to Australia as well because they don’t really treat the aboriginal people good do they even though they were there first. Aussies are white European prisoners who were carted there mostly.

            😂🤣

          • camille55 says:

            Mark – your OP throws another interesting debate: someone recently posted on HfP to vocally avoid companies like Barclays as they are on a so-called ‘boycott list’ re Israel, but they will gladly go to the UAE. Indeed, they appear to have posted on this article today and been colourful in their praise of a certain Dubai hotel. Myopic?

            Whatever ones view of current issues in Gaza, human rights abuses in UAE and Qatar are well-documented. So, either factor your morality into your travel, or don’t. But if you do, as Rob points out below, very unlikely you will get far out of W Europe!

            Even Australiasia is arguably out of bounds over past treatment of the ‘original’ inhabitants of those islands by the settlers who came ‘later’. And if that sways you, where does it all end!?

          • Mark says:

            Many places to visit beyond Western Europe and Australasia align more with my values, meaning my travel options are not as restricted as some might think. But I choose not to work or visit what I consider overtly hostile countries – but I have my own business, so I have that luxury. No country is perfect, and we all have to choose our battles.

            For instance, Australia has become more progressive over time and while I do have some opinions about it, it is a far cry from what I am trying to demonstrate.

            I am a bit baffled by the outright resistance to my point of view though. While I understand my opinions may differ from others, I’m surprised at the complete lack of empathy in the responses I’ve received, though I may have misinterpreted some.

            This isn’t about being ‘woke’, though I strive to be politically and socially conscious – the term’s original meaning before Suella Braverman and her group appropriated it. We’re all trying to find a balance between enjoying life and advocating for freedom of expression and progressive citizens’ rights despite the complexities involved. There has to be a balance; if you disagreed with everything a country did, you’d never leave your house.

            No country is perfect; as I said, you must choose your battles, but some places are overtly hostile. I haven’t yet come across anyone completely unconcerned about visiting countries that don’t prioritise the well-being of their citizens and visitors. I’m open to hearing viewpoints that consider both sides of the argument, but this might not be the time or place – I get that.

          • Rob says:

            This is probably the best argued version of this comment we’ve ever had, so thank you for making it.

          • Novice says:

            @Mark, I have no problem with your views and I do understand your point of view but as @Russell said everything is pretty much owned by someone that may not be a saint. A person can’t just make this sort of decision without being a hypocrite.

            Eg, a person can’t boycott Coca Cola and then still go Costa.

            I don’t like hypocrisy that’s why I decided to respond. Honestly, if you know enough history every single country has committed some atrocities.

            It’s your choice where you go but in the same way it is up to Rob if he wants to promote Qatar and UAE because this site is his business. We as the readers shouldn’t be trying to tell him what to do.

            He doesn’t force anyone to go anywhere. And nobody else is either. Everyone is free to do what they want and really I suggest in future, don’t bring your views into it. You can’t expect ppl not to resist if they have had a good time somewhere.

            And anyway why are you expecting to change anyone’s mind. You do you. 👍

    • NorthernLass says:

      Lol, I’m quite partial to a “cultural dessert” 😂

  • David says:

    LAX-MAD is the real sweet spot. Priced at 42.5k when it’s actually further away than MEX-MAD priced at 51k.

    • NorthernLass says:

      That is worth knowing, given there are no direct flights from MAN to LAX (and most other US cities!)

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